Hunt shared his feelings on a new Koinonia podcast conducted by Doug Baker, public relations director for the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, and posted May 14 on the convention’s website.
Hunt said in Baptist life, “the church is king,” but “some in our denomination feel the church can be king in word only.”
Hunt’s congregation, First Baptist Church of Woodstock, Ga., gives millions to missions and has started numerous other churches. But he received criticism last year, when running for the SBC presidency, over Woodstock’s giving just 2.2 percent of its undesignated receipts for missions through the SBC’s Cooperative Program unified budget.
A church giving 10 percent of receipts to the Cooperative Program has become an implied leadership standard, even as average SBC church gifts have sunk to just over five percent.
In the 30 years since the “conservative resurgence” — conservatives’ effort to gain control of the convention’s leadership from moderates — launched, the churches of only four SBC presidents have given 10 percent or more to the program, a fact that a committee commissioned by the SBC Executive Committee said contributed to the decline of CP giving overall. Executive Committee President Morris Chapman’s church was one of the 10-percent givers when he was SBC president 1991-92 and pastor of First Baptist Church, Wichita Falls, Texas.
“I feel sometimes … that bureaucracy is speaking down to [the] church and holding us accountable, such as, ‘Here’s what Johnny Hunt gives through the Cooperative Program. Question mark. Would we want someone to lead who has no greater commitment to CP?’
“There we have speaking down to the pastor. Now this is an opportunity for us to speak back up to the state and ask, ‘What is fair?’” he said. “Should it be the church holding the denomination accountable…or should they be holding us accountable?”
“If the church is king, anyone else that speaks to us is a prince speaking to the king.”
Hunt emphasized that the 10 commitments called for in the “Great Commission Resurgence” document reflect “what we hear from grass-roots pastors and grass-roots leaders of local churches across America,” and are not just his feelings and those of the document’s primary author, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary President Danny Akin.
Chapman himself raised the possibility during an address April 5, 2004 at a Baptist Identity Conference at Union University that an “overhaul” of the processes by which national and state conventions function “appear[s] to be an absolute necessity.”
Hunt said of Chapman’s remarks, “I am literally attempting to lead the SBC to do literally, literally what he said. If he said the SBC needs fine tuning, let’s tune it up. If it needs an overhaul, let’s tune it up.”
Hunt favors messengers approving a study committee during the 2009 SBC annual meeting, set for June in Louisville, Ky. “Let’s let the facts speak for themselves,” he said. “No one in our denomination should have to be afraid of what we discover if indeed we discover the facts. I want to know this denomination does a better job of serving the churches.”
“Facts are our friends,” he said, repeatedly.
Hunt said Southern Baptists have more resources, pastors and churches than ever before, but the denomination’s primary measure of effectiveness — baptisms — is at its lowest rate since 1972.
“We should be doing more,” he said. “Why are we not? It’s time to take a look.”
He said “the church is king” and “we should be giving proper leadership to denominational staff” to “help us to experience the ‘Great Commission resurgence.’”
Hunt expressed gratitude for state-convention executives and “those in Nashville,” home offices of the Executive Committee and several other SBC agencies, but wants accountability to begin at the local church. From there, he said, he wants a committee to study the national system of associations, state conventions and national agencies and institutions so Baptists can “do the best we can with what God has entrusted to us.”
Baker said in a question to Hunt that Southern Baptist Theological Seminary President Al Mohler raised the issue in 2004 of “theological triage,” or first, second and third levels of importance for particular theological positions.
Fellowship is contingent, Mohler said, on agreement on first-level theology.
Hunt said he is not going to break fellowship over “non-essentials” and said “a team from across denominational life” could “help us determine what are these first things.”
His own list of “first things” is short, but a denominational consensus would help Baptists determine more clearly where they should be “spending valuable resources, valuable time and valuable energy,” Hunt said.
“One thing that can steer us in the right direction is that we Southern Baptists agree almost always on far more than we disagree on,” Hunt said. “I hope we can get our arms around the gospel, the Great Commission, the building of churches, global missions, evangelism to the point we can agree to agree on so much that it will start pointing us in the same direction.”
Hunt said some say his call for a “Great Commission Resurgence“ — particularly Article 9 of the manifesto, which refers to “commitment to a more effective convention structure” and a willingness to streamline at all levels — is threatening the SBC.
He said trust is “really missing in this denomination” and asked if either he or Akin had given any evidence that they would “desire anything other than God’s best for the denomination.”
“If Southern Baptists as a convention win, we all win,” Hunt said.
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Norman Jameson is editor of the Biblical Recorder, North Carolina Baptists’ newspaper.